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First, I just wanted to find out basically, in a nut shell, what Protestantism is. And in a nut shell, Protestantism goes against the authority and doctrine of the Pope. Protestantism really originates from the Latin word protestatio, which refers to the "letter of the protestation". There's more about this on the Wikipedia pagethat I went to.
Then I wanted to know what the different sects of Christianity are. Although there are apparently thousands of sects of Christianity, there are 8 major ones (according to this site Religious Tolerance that I visited). These sects are: Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian Chruces, Protestantism, Restorationists, Anglican Communion, Pentecostals, and Others.
So after finding that out I was wondering what the difference was between Christianity and Catholicism. The difference between the two is that in Christianity, the Bible (the word of God) is the only real rule and faith. In Catholicism, the word of the Pope is also crucial.
Then I was wondering what monk life was like, and I found this really good "tour" that takes you through the life of a monk (from PBS). Click on "Enter a Monk's Life". Although I haven't explored it in its entirety, the rest of the links on the website looks like it has interesting information.
Then from the same site (I had wanted to learn a little more about Luther's wife), I found a mini summary of Katharine von Bora , and it seems like the two had a loving relationship. To quote Luther, "There is no more lovely, friendly, and charming relationship, communion, or company than a good marriage."
Lastly, I had a question: Did the Pope and Emperor ever make up and have a good relationship? During Luther's time, did they have a good relationship?
At the beginning of the reading, it mentions that Luther had a conversion when he was struck by lightening. I may have missed it, but what was his faith before his conversion?
I also found it interesting how devoted Luther was to the Church as a monk. And I remember hearing a story last year in Mr. Snively's 8th grade history class. I heard a story that Luther would go to confession, confess his sins, be absolved, feel relieved that he was absolved, and then run back into confession because he thought he thought he was sinning by feeling relieved of his sins.
When I looked up "Examples of Luther's devotion" on google, I saw a million links that talked about Martin Luther's devotion to Mary Apparently Luther was a huge believer in Mary and the Immaculate conception which I found interesting because Lutheran beliefs today do not honor Mary as much.
It also mentioned the 95 theses, which I wanted to find some more info on (I did this before the reading we had on them) So I found a picture of them and another picture of when he was posting them. And here is another similar picture
Indulgences: Indulgences refer not only to the ones sold in the middle ages, but is a catholic term for an excuse from sin. Though the cathoic church no longer sells indulgences, it still maintains that indulgences are an important part of the religion, though in modern times catholic doctrine states that indulgences are acquired by more faith based activities, such as penance, publicly proclaiming one's faith, and listening to certain official speeches given by the pope. It should be noted that these are not absolute indulgences, and theoretically if one sins again they need to repent and preform the indulgence gaining activities more.
Martin Luther was born in Saxony. Wheres that? Heres a map
Here is a picture of Wittenberg, where Martin Luther went to school. There is a statue of him on the campus.
I thought it was interesting how in the reading it talked about how Martin Luther saved 12 nuns and then married one of them. He married Katharina von Bora. She was a German catholic nun and she was one of the leaders of the Protestant Reformation.
I thought it was really amazing that Martin Luther did all of the stuff in this reading. What shocked me the most was that he burned the letter saying that he was being excommunicated from the Church. I think that would take real bravery.
Some questions I had about the reading were:
1. Why did the nuns that Martin Luther smuggled out of the convent need to be smuggled out?
2. How did to of Martin Luther's children die in childhood?
When I was reading, the one person who really sparked my interest was Frederick the Wise. I thought it was cool how he defended Martin Luther even though he didn't really agree with him, so I looked up a bit more about him.
The first thing I did was look up exactly what it meant to be an Elector-- this Wikipedia article on them reveals that it means the person is a member of the electoral college of the Holy Roman Empire, which meant they had a say in who was elected (?) king and also the future emperor.
On Frederick himself, I found his Wikipedia article, which says that he founded the University of Wittenburg, where Martin Luther eventually taught. Pope Leo X also nominated him to be Holy Roman Emperor at one point, but he did not end up winning.
I found this protrait of Frederick, which seems to be a fairly common one.
I also found a photo of part of the University of Wittenburg that he built.
I know this is a pretty silly question, but this guy is different from Martin Luther king Jr right... the whole Martin Luther thing is kind of confusing me... sorry I just needed to check that with you.
Are the papal indulgences the thing you were talking to us in class about the whole for enough money you can get a get out of hell card thing? or am I confusing that with something else?
Something that I found interesting was that Martin Luther was monk, correct, and then he married a nun, weren't they not supposed to get married? Or is that what the reading meant when it says that he took his excommunication seriously, as in he was no longer a monk so he was allowed to marry?
After the reading I wanted to find out a little more about Katharina von Bora, Martin Luther's wife. I found a special website about her off of the Concordia Historical Institute. It looks like its an exhibit of some sort. I found this neat little poem detailing her life there:
"I am known as Katharina von Bora born in the lands of Meissen of an old and noble line. Like my ancestors of past serving God and the Roman Empire with honor and glory.
As I came of age I accepted a life of virtue while everyone was enamored with the Pope and his den of monks. And highly regarded were the nuns. I was sent to the cloister Nimbschen. I observed there both honor and duty. I called to God, and prayed day and night for the welfare of all Christendom. God heard me and was pleased.
Doctor Luther, the courageous hero Was selected as my husband to whom I in a virtuous marriage bore three sons and daughters. I lived as a widow for seven years after the death of my lord.
And in the lovely city of Torgau my body was buried; awaiting the trumpet call when all the dead will rise. Then, with my lord (husband), I shall sing and praise God eternally; and with those who are chosen live joyfully, eternally."
I found it particularly interesting that even though she was only five when her mother died, she was placed in a nunnery to be educated... it seems like an odd thing to do to a five year old girl. Also, its nice how the marriage between Luther and Katharina worked out so that they were both happy... I don't imagine that happened very often back then.
I was interested in how Martin Luther said pretty much whatever he wanted and he gained the appeal of many people. Such as with the 95 theses where people learned of him through it and became some of his followers. I was also interested in how the 95 theses ultimately led to Protestantism. I was wondering what were some examples in his 95 theses. I was also wondering what happened to Tetzel.
I found it interesting the Martin burnt his letter from the church. It reminded me of Jesus when he kicked over the banker tables because they were corrupted. So I think Martin did this because he thinks the Catholics are corrupted too. Also the fact that he took the nuns and married was a shot at the Church. Also the fact that he throws himself at Charles V was very noble of him considering he was in a room full of people that don't like him.
I want to know why did he take the nuns and why those nuns?
Also i would like to know why he didn't want to be a lawyer because that is one of the better jobs one can have?
At the beginning of the reading, it talked a lot about Martin Luther's father so I decided to do some reasearch on him. In the reading it said that his father wanted him to be a lawyer but when i researched him it said
"Martin Luther’s father owned a copper mine in nearby Mansfeld. Having risen from the peasantry, his father was determined to see his son ascend to civil service and bring further honor to the family. To that end, Hans sent young Martin to schools in Mansfeld, Magdeburg and Eisenach. "
Is civil service the same thing as being a lawyer? Also, I couldn't find the name of his father, are there any records of it?
i thought it was interesting on how, even though he was supposedly the "ideal" monk, he disobeyed one of the most important of the ten commandments. he totally ignored love thy neighbor. "neighbor" is not 100% literal, it is not just the people who live next to you, but everyone. yet he calls the pope the anti-christ. I'm not saying standing out against the pope is a bad thing, being a protestant myself, but could he have been nicer in doing so? you don't have to always agree with people to love them, disagreement is what drives society. could Luther have disagreed lovingly?
The reading says "He went to confession constantly, to the point where his confessor warned him that excessive confession was itself a sin of pride." How is admitting all you sins all the time being prideful?
Also, a little later in the reading, it said that "the terrors of Hell were quite real to Luther." Is this referring to experiences in his life, or just that he had a great fear of hell?
What is an abbot? -abbot, which means father, is the head of a monastery in many religions
What is a Diet at Worms? -it was a general assembly of the estates in the Holy Roman Empire
It says in the reading that the lutherans are the largest denomination of christianity today. It turns out that its true with 67 million lutherans in the world. The lutheran church stretches from South America, to Asia. I noticed on the lutheran "hompage" that membership in Asia, South America, and Africa were rising, while membership in Europe is going down..
I would like to know why this is happening.. Why would the other parts of the world become more Lutheran, and the places where it originates becomes a bit anti-Lutheran..?
Ok, it seems to me, from the reading, that Martin Luther was a fairly stubborn person, who stuck to his beliefs and didn't stray from them, even though many people told him that he should calm down. Maybe somewhat like this guy?
Also, maybe he is using this conflict as his stubborn point. While Martin Luther defended his 95 theses, he is having to defend this conflict. Just a thought though...
Questions:
1) Martin Luther was a very stubborn character and lived his life to the full, so what happened when he died? Did the Church discover where he was buried and dig him up?
2)Also, why did England take on Martin Luther's ideas so readily?(while I know that Henry VIII was the king to finally get rid of Catholicism, however, why did England in general accept these ideas?
This reading made me see how interesting Martin Luther was. However, Martin Luther could probably not of been the man he was without his father. I decided to do some more research on his father like Jessica did. On wikipedia I found this quote, "Hans Luther was ambitious for himself and his family, and was determined to see Martin, his eldest son, become a lawyer."
However, it says that people thought Luther's mother was a whore and bad attendant. And it said that Martin Luther was very close to his brother Jacob.
I thought that is was very interesting that Martin's father wanted him to become a lawyer. I would have thought that his father would have wanted his son to be like him. I also found it very interesting that Martin would argue against the pope, because the pope is so powerful. I think that that just shows what kind of person he was. But I had a questions about why Luther decided to start a revolution?
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First, I just wanted to find out basically, in a nut shell, what Protestantism is. And in a nut shell, Protestantism goes against the authority and doctrine of the Pope. Protestantism really originates from the Latin word protestatio, which refers to the "letter of the protestation". There's more about this on the Wikipedia pagethat I went to.
Then I wanted to know what the different sects of Christianity are. Although there are apparently thousands of sects of Christianity, there are 8 major ones (according to this site Religious Tolerance that I visited).
These sects are: Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian Chruces, Protestantism, Restorationists, Anglican Communion, Pentecostals, and Others.
So after finding that out I was wondering what the difference was between Christianity and Catholicism. The difference between the two is that in Christianity, the Bible (the word of God) is the only real rule and faith. In Catholicism, the word of the Pope is also crucial.
Then I was wondering what monk life was like, and I found this really good "tour" that takes you through the life of a monk (from PBS). Click on "Enter a Monk's Life". Although I haven't explored it in its entirety, the rest of the links on the website looks like it has interesting information.
Then from the same site (I had wanted to learn a little more about Luther's wife), I found a mini summary of Katharine von Bora , and it seems like the two had a loving relationship. To quote Luther, "There is no more lovely, friendly, and charming relationship, communion, or company than a good marriage."
Lastly, I had a question: Did the Pope and Emperor ever make up and have a good relationship? During Luther's time, did they have a good relationship?
Sorry, the link for Katharine von Bora isn't working. The link here works:
Katharine von Bora
At the beginning of the reading, it mentions that Luther had a conversion when he was struck by lightening. I may have missed it, but what was his faith before his conversion?
I also found it interesting how devoted Luther was to the Church as a monk. And I remember hearing a story last year in Mr. Snively's 8th grade history class. I heard a story that Luther would go to confession, confess his sins, be absolved, feel relieved that he was absolved, and then run back into confession because he thought he thought he was sinning by feeling relieved of his sins.
When I looked up "Examples of Luther's devotion" on google, I saw a million links that talked about
Martin Luther's devotion to Mary Apparently Luther was a huge believer in Mary and the
Immaculate conception which I found interesting because Lutheran beliefs today do not honor Mary as much.
It also mentioned the 95 theses, which I wanted to find some more info on (I did this before the reading we had on them) So I found
a picture of them and another
picture of when he was posting them. And here is another similar
picture
JK I LOVE YOU MIRIAM
Indulgences: Indulgences refer not only to the ones sold in the middle ages, but is a catholic term for an excuse from sin. Though the cathoic church no longer sells indulgences, it still maintains that indulgences are an important part of the religion, though in modern times catholic doctrine states that indulgences are acquired by more faith based activities, such as penance, publicly proclaiming one's faith, and listening to certain official speeches given by the pope. It should be noted that these are not absolute indulgences, and theoretically if one sins again they need to repent and preform the indulgence gaining activities more.
Martin Luther was born in Saxony. Wheres that? Heres a map
Here is a picture of Wittenberg, where Martin Luther went to school. There is a statue of him on the campus.
I thought it was interesting how in the reading it talked about how Martin Luther saved 12 nuns and then married one of them. He married Katharina von Bora. She was a German catholic nun and she was one of the leaders of the Protestant Reformation.
I thought it was really amazing that Martin Luther did all of the stuff in this reading. What shocked me the most was that he burned the letter saying that he was being excommunicated from the Church. I think that would take real bravery.
Some questions I had about the reading were:
1. Why did the nuns that Martin Luther smuggled out of the convent need to be smuggled out?
2. How did to of Martin Luther's children die in childhood?
When I was reading, the one person who really sparked my interest was Frederick the Wise. I thought it was cool how he defended Martin Luther even though he didn't really agree with him, so I looked up a bit more about him.
The first thing I did was look up exactly what it meant to be an Elector-- this Wikipedia article on them reveals that it means the person is a member of the electoral college of the Holy Roman Empire, which meant they had a say in who was elected (?) king and also the future emperor.
On Frederick himself, I found his Wikipedia article, which says that he founded the University of Wittenburg, where Martin Luther eventually taught. Pope Leo X also nominated him to be Holy Roman Emperor at one point, but he did not end up winning.
I found this protrait of Frederick, which seems to be a fairly common one.
I also found a photo of part of the University of Wittenburg that he built.
I know this is a pretty silly question, but this guy is different from Martin Luther king Jr right... the whole Martin Luther thing is kind of confusing me... sorry I just needed to check that with you.
Are the papal indulgences the thing you were talking to us in class about the whole for enough money you can get a get out of hell card thing? or am I confusing that with something else?
Something that I found interesting was that Martin Luther was monk, correct, and then he married a nun, weren't they not supposed to get married? Or is that what the reading meant when it says that he took his excommunication seriously, as in he was no longer a monk so he was allowed to marry?
After the reading I wanted to find out a little more about Katharina von Bora, Martin Luther's wife. I found a special website about her off of the Concordia Historical Institute. It looks like its an exhibit of some sort. I found this neat little poem detailing her life there:
"I am known as Katharina von Bora
born in the lands of Meissen
of an old and noble line.
Like my ancestors of past
serving God and the Roman Empire
with honor and glory.
As I came of age
I accepted a life of virtue
while everyone was enamored
with the Pope and his den of monks.
And highly regarded were the nuns.
I was sent to the cloister Nimbschen.
I observed there both honor and duty.
I called to God, and prayed day and night
for the welfare of all Christendom.
God heard me and was pleased.
Doctor Luther, the courageous hero
Was selected as my husband
to whom I in a virtuous marriage
bore three sons and daughters.
I lived as a widow for seven years
after the death of my lord.
And in the lovely city of Torgau
my body was buried;
awaiting the trumpet call
when all the dead will rise.
Then, with my lord (husband),
I shall sing and praise God eternally;
and with those who are chosen
live joyfully, eternally."
I found it particularly interesting that even though she was only five when her mother died, she was placed in a nunnery to be educated... it seems like an odd thing to do to a five year old girl. Also, its nice how the marriage between Luther and Katharina worked out so that they were both happy... I don't imagine that happened very often back then.
I was interested in how Martin Luther said pretty much whatever he wanted and he gained the appeal of many people. Such as with the 95 theses where people learned of him through it and became some of his followers. I was also interested in how the 95 theses ultimately led to Protestantism.
I was wondering what were some examples in his 95 theses.
I was also wondering what happened to Tetzel.
I found it interesting the Martin burnt his letter from the church. It reminded me of Jesus when he kicked over the banker tables because they were corrupted. So I think Martin did this because he thinks the Catholics are corrupted too. Also the fact that he took the nuns and married was a shot at the Church. Also the fact that he throws himself at Charles V was very noble of him considering he was in a room full of people that don't like him.
I want to know why did he take the nuns and why those nuns?
Also i would like to know why he didn't want to be a lawyer because that is one of the better jobs one can have?
At the beginning of the reading, it talked a lot about Martin Luther's father so I decided to do some reasearch on him. In the reading it said that his father wanted him to be a lawyer but when i researched him it said
"Martin Luther’s father owned a copper mine in nearby Mansfeld. Having risen from the peasantry, his father was determined to see his son ascend to civil service and bring further honor to the family. To that end, Hans sent young Martin to schools in Mansfeld, Magdeburg and Eisenach. "
Is civil service the same thing as being a lawyer? Also, I couldn't find the name of his father, are there any records of it?
i thought it was interesting on how, even though he was supposedly the "ideal" monk, he disobeyed one of the most important of the ten commandments. he totally ignored love thy neighbor. "neighbor" is not 100% literal, it is not just the people who live next to you, but everyone. yet he calls the pope the anti-christ. I'm not saying standing out against the pope is a bad thing, being a protestant myself, but could he have been nicer in doing so? you don't have to always agree with people to love them, disagreement is what drives society. could Luther have disagreed lovingly?
The reading says "He went to confession constantly, to the point where his confessor warned him that excessive confession was itself a sin of pride." How is admitting all you sins all the time being prideful?
Also, a little later in the reading, it said that "the terrors of Hell were quite real to Luther." Is this referring to experiences in his life, or just that he had a great fear of hell?
What is an abbot?
-abbot, which means father, is the head of a monastery in many religions
What is a Diet at Worms?
-it was a general assembly of the estates in the Holy Roman Empire
It says in the reading that the lutherans are the largest denomination of christianity today. It turns out that its true with 67 million lutherans in the world. The lutheran church stretches from South America, to Asia. I noticed on the lutheran "hompage" that membership in Asia, South America, and Africa were rising, while membership in Europe is going down..
I would like to know why this is happening.. Why would the other parts of the world become more Lutheran, and the places where it originates becomes a bit anti-Lutheran..?
Ok, it seems to me, from the reading, that Martin Luther was a fairly stubborn person, who stuck to his beliefs and didn't stray from them, even though many people told him that he should calm down. Maybe somewhat like this guy?
Also, maybe he is using this conflict as his stubborn point. While Martin Luther defended his 95 theses, he is having to defend this conflict. Just a thought though...
Questions:
1) Martin Luther was a very stubborn character and lived his life to the full, so what happened when he died? Did the Church discover where he was buried and dig him up?
2)Also, why did England take on Martin Luther's ideas so readily?(while I know that Henry VIII was the king to finally get rid of Catholicism, however, why did England in general accept these ideas?
That's all I have...
This reading made me see how interesting Martin Luther was. However, Martin Luther could probably not of been the man he was without his father. I decided to do some more research on his father like Jessica did. On wikipedia I found this quote, "Hans Luther was ambitious for himself and his family, and was determined to see Martin, his eldest son, become a lawyer."
However, it says that people thought Luther's mother was a whore and bad attendant. And it said that Martin Luther was very close to his brother Jacob.
I thought that is was very interesting that Martin's father wanted him to become a lawyer. I would have thought that his father would have wanted his son to be like him. I also found it very interesting that Martin would argue against the pope, because the pope is so powerful. I think that that just shows what kind of person he was. But I had a questions about why Luther decided to start a revolution?
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